In this game a Late Imperial Roman force faced an invading Early Sassanid Persian force. It was the first outing for the Sassanids and my first attempt to use elephants. As you will see I have learned a few things about their use. The two armies consisted of
II/69(a) Early Sassanid (Aggressor)
General (Cv), 5 Asaravan (Cv), 1 horse archer (LH), 1 elephant, 1 Daylami (4Ax) and 2 Levies (7Hd).
II/78(a) Western Late Imperial Roman (Defender)
General (Cv), 1 Equites (Cv), 1 Cataphract (4Kn), 2 Equites Illyricani (LH), 2 legionaries (4Bd), 3 Auxilia Palatina (4Ax), 2 Light Infantry (Ps).
The solo rules require the player to select his 12 elements before working out the options for the non player (let's call that the AI from here on in). The rules require you to dice for the options but have modifiers to each di roll to create a balanced force related to the troops chosen by the player. For example it has a modifier to increase the chance of taking pike elements in pairs as they get a rear support bonus which of course requires two units of pike. You then decide on the terrain, if the AI is the defender there are rules to determine the AI's choices and placement of the terrain. Next you deploy then again the rules select the AI formation, group make up and deployment. this can be a bit random and I will add a rule to avoid anything other than LH being out on a limb. They then go on to determine if you are facing an aggressive, neutral or defensive AI player. That result will influence the tactics available to the AI each turn as the game unfolds. There is an option to allow the AI choice of tactic to be overturned by the player if the AI seems to be making a choice which is particularly poor, but it isn't an automatic ability there is a dice roll with a small chance of the AI tactical choice being kept.
As the defender I had the choice of terrain items and placement. Given that the Sassanids are cavalry heavy and had an elephant I decided to close the terrain down as much as possible and to try to force the elephant to attack where I wanted. I took the obligatory pair of plough, a difficult Hill, a Bog and a wood. The dice were reasonably kind and allowed me to load my left flank with terrain but placed the wood to my right. With Hindsight I might have done better to select an enclosure rather than the second plough as that is always rough going.
I deployed with the Auxilia on the hill covering my left flank, cavalry and cataphracts to the centre of my line (as I expected the Persian cavalry to attack down the central avenue of good going) then the Legionaries lastly the Psiloi with and Light Horse stacked up in column at the end of the line. I had split the Sassanids into two cavalry commands, as required by the solo rules, an infantry command containing just the levy and an elephant command with Nelly and Daylami support. The General I kept as a separate command to be able to move him to join the best positioned command as the game developed. The dicing for the Sassanid deployment weighted the centre of the battlefield as expected but put the Levy out on the Sassanid right behind the bog. The Elephant formed the centre of their line with the Daylami directly in front and the General sat slightly behind. To it's right are three Asaravan Heavy Cavalry with Light Horse in the second rank. On the other flank are the Cataphracts then two more Asaravan.
The starting deployment, Romans to the right |
End of turn 1, you can see the Roman line being sorted out, lucky the Persians were not more on their game! |
Turn two ends and the Sassanids have started to roll forwards |
Turn three the Romans reversed their line slightly and the Sassanids move the Pachyderms forward |
Those Psiloi are tougher than they look, the Legionaries look on awestruck as they repel a cataphract charge. |
The end, there is a striking absence of Persian cavalry at the far end of the line! |
I know an awful lot of people really like DBA but the more I play it the more I see some weaknesses that really should be addressed. It has it’s strengths too of course, it plays quickly, the rules come with full army lists and decent explanations of the mechanisms in action. What I don't like is the lack of distant shooting other than for Bows and Artillery, this really hampers bow armed cavalry armies like the Sassanids who would have stood off and shot, evading local counter attacks wherever possible and coming straight back to shoot again. I understand that the game tries to simulate that at a very high level but it just doesn't have the feel of those tactics. For the standard game the other serious limiting factor is the 12 element basic army. I accept that it also allows players to build an army without too big of an outlay but it feels constricting. Big Battle DBA offsets that to a large extent but still only allows the limited choice across the original 12 elements.
Overall I prefer the two follow up expanded variants to the system DBM and DBMM with their more detailed army lists and extensions to troop types. I also like ADLG which has mechanisms which cover distant shooting, although it has accuracy issues with it's army list composition. I am hoping the updated version later this year will have been improved in that respect.
All that said though when I want a quick game that lets me get the toys on the table DBA is a good shout and the solo play modifications do make you think about tactics more than would otherwise be the case. I'm wondering if I could adapt them to other related games.
So thats week three of lock down done, stay safe everyone and try not to go stir crazy.
Great post and a very interesting battle. The AI mechanism sounds like what I need for my forthcoming DB battles - if it’s transferable... love the woods too, they look great!
ReplyDeleteThe basic principles should transfer OK the idea is that they create tactical guidance rather than fully run the AI army. The DBA v3.0 variant is on Fanaticus the DBA website. It's a free download all you have to do is register on the site. I'm going to give it a few more run outs. the woods do look nice. railway foam foliage glued to a backing board. To give a bit of shape I glued some scrunched up aluminium foil in places. Good old Bostick to stick everything together. I put a seperate footprint underneath so i can lift the canopy if troops go inside the woods. Quick easy and looks good. I have toyed with the idea of lifting it slightly on nails ot pins to give a bit more height but never seem to get around to it.
ReplyDeleteMy first thought too was the woods - they look like a really dense forest. Do you have them sitting on an identical shape so you can deploy troops inside or do you just place them on top?
ReplyDeleteActually, to be strictly correct, my first thought was not the wood, but the AI. It seems that it severely restricts the non-player while giving the player (in your case the LIR) full flexibility. Given that you, as a solo player, are meant to sit in both generals' positions I think you should have equal scope as either player.That is something I've always found hard mind you - I tend to either start taking sides or else thinking, hmm, I'll just see what happens if I do this . . .)
Would the game play well if both sides were bound by the constraints of a die roll - so the Romans too could suddenly find themselves feeling cautious? Just a thought.
I like DBMM100 for small games. I never liked the bits yo mention about DBA either (12 elements makes some armies even more vulnerable to the paper, scissors, rock nature of the game. I remember using Galatians against Classical Indians once - Wb and a couple of Cv vs Kn Chariots and elephants. Oh dear . . .
During the development of DBMM there were debates about giving mounted archers a range effect but Phil was immovable. I still think it could improve the game if done well but it's not a big enough issue for me to send me off to ADLG, which, it seems to me, has other issues that would bug me more. Anyway, thanks for the great little write up.
Cheers,
John
Hi John, thanks for stopping by. The woods do have a seperate part under the foliage so I can place troops in them. The AI isn't bad you just need to be strict in applying the tactical options as the solo rules allow.
ReplyDeleteI think I may have to give DBMM100 a try as I do prefer the army lists to those of DBA, it has a bit more period flavour. I have doubts about the ADLG lists as they seem to have a large bias towards balancing armies for competition use by allowing troop types there is little or no evidence for. What I do like is the step casualty system and the range combat. Somewhere between DBM/DBMM and ADLG I suspect there is a sweet spot. I just don't know exactly where it is.
Oh my goodness they are 6mm? They look like 15's! Great job on them. Lovely looking game.
ReplyDeleteMostly Baccus which are at the top end of 6mm size wise but still a long way from being 15mm. I posted some blogs about the way I paint them if you are really interested in how to get the look. Baccus do lend themselves to nice paint jobs, which makes life easier.
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